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Should I Roll Over My 401K or Qualified Retirement Plan?

February 19, 2021

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Is it ridiculous to think about moving your old 401(k)? I’m mean I get it; you already picked the funds you wanted, you look at the statement every once and a while and as long as it is generally going up over time that’s fine right? “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” is what my Dad always told me. But is that really what is going to serve your goals the best long term? 

Picture this; you’re shopping for a new car and the sales person asks you, “What brought you in here today?” And you respond “Looking for a new car, with an obvious look on your face.” “Oh” says the sales person, “Did yours die on you?” “No, you respond, it’s just time you know. I don’t want to hold on to it so long that it breaks down. I want to get something new now before it’s too late.” 

Now think about this story, the car ran fine, it drove fine, it probably still looked fine, it was probably only 5-10 years old, but it was time for a new one. Things have improved in cars after all, better features, they are safer, more efficient, etc. and you want to make sure you’re in the best car for your needs. Why should investing be any different. Do you really want to hold investments because they are “just fine”? So, let’s spend a few minutes actually discussing the pros and cons of keeping and old 401(k) and you can determine for yourself and your situation if that makes the most sense. 

Benefits of a QEP:

It goes without saying the most obvious benefits to a qualified employer plan (QEP) are during the active contribution stage, which is the time at which you are making weekly or bi-weekly contributions. First of all; you’re able to take advantage of the much large contribution limit than an IRA account. Plus, those dollars go in pre-tax saving you on federal income taxes during the year you contribute. Another huge benefit is the company match that makes it so irresistible, if the company in fact offers one. I mean who doesn’t love free money. In addition the contribution limit is much higher than in an IRA account allowing you to put more money away faster. 

The next biggest benefit to a QEP is the simple investment choices. The plan gives you a menu of funds to choose from that they feel will do well for the collective group of employees. It is different in an IRA account. Typically, with most custodians you’re able to choose from nearly the entire investment world. Did you know that according to www.statista.com in 2019, there were 7,945 mutual funds in the United States, and that doesn’t even count individual stocks, ETF’s and alternative assets? I can see why now if you were responsible for picking the best ones yourself why you would like the limited selection of only a few average funds. 

In conjunction with simple investment choices for most investors limited research is done or needed. If the fund has a decent 3-year, 5-year, and 10-year return, just go with that one. While that may be just find as we talked about earlier; don’t you want your money working as hard as you do?

Another perceived benefit of QEP’s is target date funds. What is better than picking your desired retirement date and letting them manage a fund specifically for those people wanting to retire at that year. The idea is to start with a larger percentage in equities and slowly reduce that over time in favor of more bonds. With target date funds you get simplicity, if that is what you are looking for. 

Lastly one of the most valuable benefits of a QEP is loan provisions. The ability to borrow money from your QEP without incurring a taxable event and then be able to pay that money back and all the interest you paid was to yourself, is a substantial benefit to those with limited resources. If nearly your entire life savings is all wrapped up in this one QEP and you have limited liquidity for emergencies, you may find great value in this provision. If, however you have an emergency account, extra accounts for liquidity, and the ability to tap into other resources, this one benefit alone may not be worth staying in the plan. 

Disadvantages of Staying in An Old QEP
We have talked about most of these so far but in a different light. Just as it may be a benefit to some to have a limited fund menu, it may be hurting your overall goals. Is it possible that there are better funds out on the open market that will achieve your goals faster with less volatility? Consider this; one of the best advantages to leaving a 401k() is the ability to pick your own investments like; individual stocks, ETF’s REITs, Options, and even crypto-currencies. These more specific investments may help you achieve your goals more efficiently over time. 

A key disadvantage of the 401(k) is the overuse of target date funds. As stated before, the idea is simple enough but in practice you may not be getting what you were hoping for. The reality is that target date funds will often underperform in good markets and do a poor job of managing downside risk during tough markets. One of the reasons for that is the inability to reduce systemic risk. According to Morningstar analyst Jeffrey Holt in March 2018…
“In the long run, the biggest risk in target-date funds is that they won’t meet
investor expectations for avoiding losses.” 

For more information on target date funds, I encourage you to read our partner blog post on the topic “Are Target Date Funds Good Or Bad?”. 

Many people believer that because they don’t see fees listed on the statement 401(k)’s don’t have fees. Just because they are not listed doesn’t mean your not paying them. One of the greatest challenges participants face is picking 401(k) funds that have low fees. ERISA has tried to make things more transparent but many participants are still left in the dark. 

Lastly because of the lack of investment choices, the push towards a one size fits all target date fund, and hidden fees; it is possible that that staying in a QEP may actually be hurting your performance long term. If you would like to know if you are maximizing your dollars to their fullest potential let us know and we would be happy to give you and your QEP a financial checkup. Click here to schedule a meeting to talk. 

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